Fluxus His­tor­i­cal Debates

About My Mama Dying and All…“
That was the title of a short story I wrote, years ago. The first of it went like this:

I knew I’d best get in the mail before I got dressed for Mama’s funeral. Sand burrs and beg­gar lice spank my Con­verse high­tops as I wade through knee-​high ditch weeds to get to Mama’s mail­box. They’re cling­ing to my legs like my lonely cousin Richie used to do when I had to go home. I stop walk­ing and pick the razor-​sharp sons of bitches out of my jeans. Damn things. Slic­ing my legs every time I take a step.

No doubt I’m back in the Great Dis­mal. Dis­mal is what it is, fuck­ing Lizard Slip, god­dam Ter­rapin Track Road. This place still gives me the willies. Every day is the same. The ticks swarm­ing in front of my face, the sweat stream slid­ing down between my ass cheeks and pud­dling in my panties, the damn cicadas what sound like a thou­sand Richard Petty’s revving up in the pit.

I grab for Mama’s mail and wade back to her house.

Only it’s not her house any­more. On account of she’s real dead.

It’s a funny story to me because the pro­tag­o­nist burns down her mother’s house and walks away with­out look­ing back. But today, it hit me. Those last few months in Brit­thaven and her smile. The last seven years have truly been about my Mom dying. It’s not the title of some short fic­tion. It’s my real­ity. And Momma is really dead.

So today I involve myself in con­ver­sa­tions about the rel­a­tiv­ity and insan­ity that is Fluxus Art. There are fas­ci­nat­ing peo­ple to know and they’ve allowed me into their dis­cus­sions. And allowed me to copy/​paste one of our Face­book threads here for you all. Dataoli­garchy. Brilliant.

The idea of noth­ing­ness from some­thing piques my inter­est and jumps my jive. When I take some­thing from my col­lec­tion and attach it to another some­thing, it becomes noth­ing because the form is not rec­og­nized. This, I believe, is my NuvoFluxus. And the noth­ing­ness I did not cre­ate is flux. It flows and even­tu­ally drowns in my per­sonal River of Strange. Or mixes with Momma’s ashes and Daddy’s WWII dog­tags on the book­shelf behind the porce­lain horses.

The play­ers in this par­tic­u­lar Face­book con­ver­sa­tion? I can hon­estly state, here and now, that aside from Ruth Chap­man Heinold, I have never con­versed with any­one as inter­est­ing as Bil­lie Maci­u­nas. I trea­sure our dialogs.

Bil­lie Maci­u­nas
Flora Mac­coll
Tara Ver­heide
Yours Truly

Bil­lie Maci­u­nas:
Fluxlist: a false pos­ti­tive in the age of dataoligarchy

Dialogist-​Kantor Pat­a­cy­clist:
pimp my fluxus (hahaha)

Tara Ver­heide:
Why false?

Valerie H. MacE­wan:
it’s an ephemeral falsehood

Bil­lie Maci­u­nas replies to each of us:

Tara: because Fluxus as I under­stand it from the Fluxus Man­i­festo can­not be con­tained in a list. For one thing, Fluxus includes nonartists. This is a list of pro­fes­sional artists who have in some way been approved to be on a list.

In addi­tion, the ques­tion of who approves or dis­ap­proves is not addressed. The infor­ma­tion appears to be inde­pen­dent of cir­cum­stances, time, and bias.

This list (and oth­ers like this, not only related to Fluxus) set a norm that can be bad for dis­senters or any­one who dies not fit the norm.…

Valerie: of course. Van­ity, van­ity, all is vanity.

Flora Mac­coll:
I’ve infil­trated it and here is a com­ment I read today: “Whether or not any­one unknown to Maci­u­nas is or can a fluxus artist was a mat­ter of some ques­tion on fluxlist and is now con­sid­ered a mute point. The fun now is for all of us to claim fluxus. I made a pub­lic announce­ment on our behalf back in 2002 that what­ever was fluxus includ­ing all fluxus… Read More prop­er­ties is now the prop­erty of the Fluxnexus. So we did a hos­tile takeover of fluxus. The only thing was, there was not any resis­tance to the takeover so it wasn’t actu­ally hos­tile. Just a takeover. Call us Flux­thugs if you like but that is what we did. It was fun. So now we’re all fluxus artists and we own fluxus.”

Flora Mac­coll:
I draw your atten­tion to this line in par­tic­u­lar:
“I made a pub­lic announce­ment on our behalf back in 2002 that what­ever was fluxus includ­ing all fluxus prop­er­ties is now the prop­erty of the Fluxnexus.“
The per­son who used the word “I” in this pas­sage appar­ently has assumed the lead­er­ship posi­tion and is now (accord­ing to him) the one and only true “spokesper­son” for fluxus. Let’s all start prac­tic­ing our genuflects.

Flora Mac­coll:
“all fluxus prop­er­ties are now the pos­ses­sion of” who?

Tara Ver­heide:
Inter­est­ing… but it’ (the impulse) is real, true and alive nonethe­less. Is it not? I will ask if the list has actu­ally rejected any com­ers… do you know? I thought any­one statig any­thing at all, or per­haps noth­ing at all on the “sign-​up” app’ was included. Maybe i was wrong. But I am Flux, maybe not Flux­O­rig­i­nal, but Flux gen­uine for sure. I’m just made that way. I do not wish to offend anyone.

Valerie H. MacE­wan:
I am flux. NuvoFluxus. But since I named myself, I cease to be legit­i­mate. Damn this state of flux!

Flora Mac­coll:
I agree, I sim­ply find it scary that some­one would pre­sume to speak for all who are fluxus. That per­son does not speak for me. Self-​proclaimed lead­ers scare me. Makes me think of Jim Jones, kool-​aid anyone?

Tara Ver­heide:
The seman­tics are only that… can we own a verb? Can we? Can an atti­tude be owned? Can a his­tory?, … prob­a­bly in some way. yes. So Fluxu­sO­rig­i­nal Was and IS not. But FLUX, the plasma state of Flux is cur­rent, it is cur­rency, it is mov­ing and as such has cre­ated a mag­netic field; only elec­tric cur­rents cre­ate mag­netic fields. And all the … Read Morecharges up Flux par­ti­cles go to that field to dis­charge. SHAZAMM!!! There is noth­ing to do about it, it IS. Flux­O­ri­gin and Mr Maci­u­nas are hon­ored and loved, nobody would/​could replace them, not even God or the Clone­Mas­ter, not the Archi­tect from the Matrix or Any Force at all; yet we can nour­ish our­selves from their dead bones, for the preterite hope shall always spring from the con­geries of the past.

Flora Mac­coll:
exactly, we can­not own it, but some try to. It reminds me of home-​owners asso­ci­a­tions, these poor peo­ple who have never had a voice in their dreary, work-​a-​day lives sud­denly become “in charge” and their drive to power urges them to make every­body in their midst alike. When some­one says “I made the state­ment on ‘our’ behalf” is what both­ers me, who is the “our” was there a vote? even if there was a vote, was it any­more valid than the home­own­ers who don’t like houses painted pink in their neighborhoods?

Bil­lie Maci­u­nas:
The orig­i­nal Fluxus, that Tara refers to as Flux­O­ri­gin and Fluxu­sO­rig­i­nal need not and should not be so dis­tin­guished. The word is Fluxus. It is the cur­rent fluxus that should dis­tin­guish itself with a name other than the original.

Flux, the plasma state, is indeed alive – that was the impor­tant point of Fluxus. So if it is alive, it should not be call­ing itself by the name of Fluxus – now a dead move­ment housed in muse­ums and col­lec­tions (also cat­e­gor­i­cally counter Fluxus and flux.)

There are other argu­ments against Fluxus2, and Flora has artic­u­lately stated one of them.

Valerie H. MacE­wan:
Fas­ci­nat­ing, this thread, a dis­cus­sion wor­thy of pub­li­ca­tion else­where. May I pub­lish it on my blog?? Or is that just too silly, too wrong?

Bil­lie Maci­u­nas:
No, please do, as far as I’m con­cerned. You might get per­mis­sion from the other par­tic­i­pants also: Tara and Flora.

Flora Mac­coll:
I’m OK with it.

Tara Ver­heide:
Right on, or should I say write on…(?)

2 thoughts on “Fluxus His­tor­i­cal Debates

  1. My blog is greatly ignored by me these busy days, so I appre­ci­ate all the more your lively blog Valerie MacE­wan. You are very inter­est­ing your­self, as is Bil­lie Maci­u­nas. I will read your work from now on. I like your inter­ests in all things liv­ing and mov­ing… sci­ence, assem­blage, art, writ­ing. We share these. I just wanted to share that thought with you and some day when I have more time, we must engage in a dia­log wor­thy of our pas­sions.
    Thankyou,
    Tara

  2. It’s dif­fi­cult to keep up with a blog… I let mace​wan​.net and The End­less Chain Pig Club go by the wayside.

    I await the dia­log wor­thy of our pas­sions, what a won­der­ful idea –